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		<title>By: Sheila-ArmyWife</title>
		<link>http://chrisberryonthe.net/2008/11/15/coming-out-of-the-god-closet/#comment-5113</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheila-ArmyWife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 13:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Some Guy--that is just what you are &quot;some guy&quot; but you for got to put your middle name &quot;some ASS guy&quot; Who the hell do you think you are? If you don&#039;t like his blog and what he wrote, then why the hell did you even comment or stay on this blog, for that matter to ever bother to read his post. It&#039;s HIS blog, and he can write what ever he wants to. 
Oh and I suppose YOU are suppose to be a Christian right?  

@Chris, I think your post is awesome. I too came out of the &quot;christian closet&quot; about a year and a 1/2 a go.  I got sick of these Christians walking around preaching the good word, yet they can&#039;t walk the walk. They do all their praying and preaching til something pisses them off, then they get all psycho. Preachers take your money so THEY can get rich and leave the poor to be even more poorer. Oh it&#039;s a long story, but, I like your post and the hell with anyone else who doesn&#039;t. If they don&#039;t like, they should just stay away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Some Guy&#8211;that is just what you are &#8220;some guy&#8221; but you for got to put your middle name &#8220;some ASS guy&#8221; Who the hell do you think you are? If you don&#8217;t like his blog and what he wrote, then why the hell did you even comment or stay on this blog, for that matter to ever bother to read his post. It&#8217;s HIS blog, and he can write what ever he wants to.<br />
Oh and I suppose YOU are suppose to be a Christian right?  </p>
<p>@Chris, I think your post is awesome. I too came out of the &#8220;christian closet&#8221; about a year and a 1/2 a go.  I got sick of these Christians walking around preaching the good word, yet they can&#8217;t walk the walk. They do all their praying and preaching til something pisses them off, then they get all psycho. Preachers take your money so THEY can get rich and leave the poor to be even more poorer. Oh it&#8217;s a long story, but, I like your post and the hell with anyone else who doesn&#8217;t. If they don&#8217;t like, they should just stay away.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Berry</title>
		<link>http://chrisberryonthe.net/2008/11/15/coming-out-of-the-god-closet/#comment-3628</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Berry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some Guy,

I guess to some folks it is a bigger deal than to others. Perhaps it&#039;s all a matter of perspective and life experience. Living in a small community in the heart of bible country it&#039;s still the kind of admission that can have significant consequences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some Guy,</p>
<p>I guess to some folks it is a bigger deal than to others. Perhaps it&#8217;s all a matter of perspective and life experience. Living in a small community in the heart of bible country it&#8217;s still the kind of admission that can have significant consequences.</p>
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		<title>By: Some Guy</title>
		<link>http://chrisberryonthe.net/2008/11/15/coming-out-of-the-god-closet/#comment-3626</link>
		<dc:creator>Some Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 15:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, so you finally acknowledged the obvious.  Do you want a medal or something?

THis reminds me of all those &quot;I started a blog!&quot; articles that all the dinosaur journalists were writing a couple years ago, or all the &quot;I gave up my typewriter for a word processor&quot; articles before that.

So you&#039;re an atheist.  BFD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, so you finally acknowledged the obvious.  Do you want a medal or something?</p>
<p>THis reminds me of all those &#8220;I started a blog!&#8221; articles that all the dinosaur journalists were writing a couple years ago, or all the &#8220;I gave up my typewriter for a word processor&#8221; articles before that.</p>
<p>So you&#8217;re an atheist.  BFD.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://chrisberryonthe.net/2008/11/15/coming-out-of-the-god-closet/#comment-2246</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 04:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

If you&#039;re still reading this, I&#039;d just like to point out that the &#039;middle road&#039;, as you put it, is never a matter of &#039;playing it safe&#039;.  It&#039;s a matter of trying to decide between irrational faith and empirical, scientific proof as a deific presence.

I&#039;ve been in Debi&#039;s previous position, trying to force my way through faith during times when it was contradictory to what I felt was right based on my personal perspective.  I chose being agnostic as my more comfortable path, as it makes sense to me to require logical and rational proof either confirming or denying the existence of God and other entities.  It is not, by any theological standpoint, &#039;playing it safe&#039; (which, in all honesty, Pascal&#039;s Wager would be more definitive as a &#039;safe&#039; route).

Any consideration that the agnostic&#039;s &#039;middle ground&#039; is playing it safe is as equally offensive as referring to an agnostic as a &#039;weak atheist&#039;.

As a sidenote, I would like to point out the following from Webster&#039;s Dictionary:

asshole -  a stupid, incompetent, or detestable person

Or, in this case, perhaps we might say, &quot;Pot....Kettle...&quot;

P.S.  Chris is, in some ways and to some people, an asshole.  I, however, happen to find him a likeable one.

P.P.S.  I&#039;m one, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re still reading this, I&#8217;d just like to point out that the &#8216;middle road&#8217;, as you put it, is never a matter of &#8216;playing it safe&#8217;.  It&#8217;s a matter of trying to decide between irrational faith and empirical, scientific proof as a deific presence.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been in Debi&#8217;s previous position, trying to force my way through faith during times when it was contradictory to what I felt was right based on my personal perspective.  I chose being agnostic as my more comfortable path, as it makes sense to me to require logical and rational proof either confirming or denying the existence of God and other entities.  It is not, by any theological standpoint, &#8216;playing it safe&#8217; (which, in all honesty, Pascal&#8217;s Wager would be more definitive as a &#8217;safe&#8217; route).</p>
<p>Any consideration that the agnostic&#8217;s &#8216;middle ground&#8217; is playing it safe is as equally offensive as referring to an agnostic as a &#8216;weak atheist&#8217;.</p>
<p>As a sidenote, I would like to point out the following from Webster&#8217;s Dictionary:</p>
<p>asshole &#8211;  a stupid, incompetent, or detestable person</p>
<p>Or, in this case, perhaps we might say, &#8220;Pot&#8230;.Kettle&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>P.S.  Chris is, in some ways and to some people, an asshole.  I, however, happen to find him a likeable one.</p>
<p>P.P.S.  I&#8217;m one, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Debi Kelly Van Cleave</title>
		<link>http://chrisberryonthe.net/2008/11/15/coming-out-of-the-god-closet/#comment-2213</link>
		<dc:creator>Debi Kelly Van Cleave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 03:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, I know what you mean about shouting from the rooftops. I have that same feeling about finally deciding that I am done with religion. I won&#039;t say I&#039;m done with God because, truthfully, I&#039;m scared to say it. But man, I feel like a load has been lifted. I finally feel like I am being true to myself after TRYING to believe in God my whole life. Feeling silly and hypocritical when I went to church. Feeling guilty when I didn&#039;t. But with this election and all the hate coming from the conservative Christians, I was like, that&#039;s it. I&#039;m done with this crap. No, I don&#039;t think there&#039;s anything wrong with gays and yes I do believe in evolution because it&#039;s SCIENCE that has been PROVEN! And the next time someone invites me to church, I&#039;m going to say, &quot;Thanks but no thanks because I can&#039;t abide by any group that teaches hate and that includes saying gays are sinners.&quot; I feel like a load has been lifted because I have been ashamed of myself for not speaking up for gays or admitting what I believe in. 

Just like you, some people have suggested that I have &quot;turned away from Jesus&quot; because I have a problem in my life. Actually, it&#039;s been just the opposite. When I had problems, I thought the same way, but was afraid to reject religion. I was weak. I had problems. Now I don&#039;t have any problems. I am quite happy. And feeling strong, I am being more true to myself. Perhaps you have come out because things are good for you?

I wrote about my rejection of religion on my blog. It&#039;s called, &quot;How Sarah Palin Turned Me off Religion.&quot; I&#039;d love for you to read it.

www.GreenerPastures--ACityGirlGoesCountry.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, I know what you mean about shouting from the rooftops. I have that same feeling about finally deciding that I am done with religion. I won&#8217;t say I&#8217;m done with God because, truthfully, I&#8217;m scared to say it. But man, I feel like a load has been lifted. I finally feel like I am being true to myself after TRYING to believe in God my whole life. Feeling silly and hypocritical when I went to church. Feeling guilty when I didn&#8217;t. But with this election and all the hate coming from the conservative Christians, I was like, that&#8217;s it. I&#8217;m done with this crap. No, I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s anything wrong with gays and yes I do believe in evolution because it&#8217;s SCIENCE that has been PROVEN! And the next time someone invites me to church, I&#8217;m going to say, &#8220;Thanks but no thanks because I can&#8217;t abide by any group that teaches hate and that includes saying gays are sinners.&#8221; I feel like a load has been lifted because I have been ashamed of myself for not speaking up for gays or admitting what I believe in. </p>
<p>Just like you, some people have suggested that I have &#8220;turned away from Jesus&#8221; because I have a problem in my life. Actually, it&#8217;s been just the opposite. When I had problems, I thought the same way, but was afraid to reject religion. I was weak. I had problems. Now I don&#8217;t have any problems. I am quite happy. And feeling strong, I am being more true to myself. Perhaps you have come out because things are good for you?</p>
<p>I wrote about my rejection of religion on my blog. It&#8217;s called, &#8220;How Sarah Palin Turned Me off Religion.&#8221; I&#8217;d love for you to read it.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.GreenerPastures--ACityGirlGoesCountry.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.GreenerPastures&#8211;ACityGirlGoesCountry.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: John Harris</title>
		<link>http://chrisberryonthe.net/2008/11/15/coming-out-of-the-god-closet/#comment-2190</link>
		<dc:creator>John Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I did. And a true introvert would have corrected them. lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I did. And a true introvert would have corrected them. lol</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Berry</title>
		<link>http://chrisberryonthe.net/2008/11/15/coming-out-of-the-god-closet/#comment-2185</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Berry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

I will not delete your post just to prove you wrong, but in order to live up to your expectations I have to point out that you made 5 spelling errors in the space of 1 paragraph.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>I will not delete your post just to prove you wrong, but in order to live up to your expectations I have to point out that you made 5 spelling errors in the space of 1 paragraph.</p>
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		<title>By: John Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 01:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was only attracted to your blog after reading some of your comments on the wordpress.org forums. I couldn&#039;t help but to visit the blog of somebody who seemed so negative and self-righteous. Then again, after reading the first few entries of your blog, it&#039;s easily understood. I haven&#039;t read enough of your blog to know if you&#039;re married or not, but I truly doubt that you are. Possibly, bout doutful. You&#039;re probably to full of yourself, to want to give anything to anybody else. But then again, I could be wrong. As for your post that I&#039;m commenting on, I won&#039;t say that I don&#039;t support your thoughts. I&#039;m neither a believer or a non-believer. I&#039;m still stuck in the middle. Not playing it safe, I just haven&#039;t made up my mind yet. However, it&#039;d be easy for me to lean in your direction, considering the life that I&#039;ve had and events that have sculpted me. But back to the point. You really come across as, well, an asshole. I don&#039;t even know you, but I can say with great certainty, base on your wordpress comments, that you really are an assole. Maybe on that&#039;s been lost for a really long time, who is now finally starting to be comfortable with himself. Who knows....90% chance, that this post will never see the comment section of your post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was only attracted to your blog after reading some of your comments on the wordpress.org forums. I couldn&#8217;t help but to visit the blog of somebody who seemed so negative and self-righteous. Then again, after reading the first few entries of your blog, it&#8217;s easily understood. I haven&#8217;t read enough of your blog to know if you&#8217;re married or not, but I truly doubt that you are. Possibly, bout doutful. You&#8217;re probably to full of yourself, to want to give anything to anybody else. But then again, I could be wrong. As for your post that I&#8217;m commenting on, I won&#8217;t say that I don&#8217;t support your thoughts. I&#8217;m neither a believer or a non-believer. I&#8217;m still stuck in the middle. Not playing it safe, I just haven&#8217;t made up my mind yet. However, it&#8217;d be easy for me to lean in your direction, considering the life that I&#8217;ve had and events that have sculpted me. But back to the point. You really come across as, well, an asshole. I don&#8217;t even know you, but I can say with great certainty, base on your wordpress comments, that you really are an assole. Maybe on that&#8217;s been lost for a really long time, who is now finally starting to be comfortable with himself. Who knows&#8230;.90% chance, that this post will never see the comment section of your post.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://chrisberryonthe.net/2008/11/15/coming-out-of-the-god-closet/#comment-1955</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll skip back up to the ghosts/spirits comment.

If you look at some of the fringe sciences (or, parapsychology and its bastard children), there are some &#039;realistic&#039; theories to define spirits outside the realm of religion.  A great deal of it has to do with the bio-electric engine that is the human body and mind and the ability of that energy to remain present after death.  Honestly, I&#039;m a little foggy on the principles, as I haven&#039;t read much on parapsych since I was about 19 or 20.

As for aliens, well, it&#039;s simple math if you think about it.  The odds of Earth being the only planet in the Universe to have developed sentient life are slim, given the potential number of planets out there, many of them closer to the center.  I wouldn&#039;t doubt there are some rather highly evolved and/or highly tech-ed up civilizations out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll skip back up to the ghosts/spirits comment.</p>
<p>If you look at some of the fringe sciences (or, parapsychology and its bastard children), there are some &#8216;realistic&#8217; theories to define spirits outside the realm of religion.  A great deal of it has to do with the bio-electric engine that is the human body and mind and the ability of that energy to remain present after death.  Honestly, I&#8217;m a little foggy on the principles, as I haven&#8217;t read much on parapsych since I was about 19 or 20.</p>
<p>As for aliens, well, it&#8217;s simple math if you think about it.  The odds of Earth being the only planet in the Universe to have developed sentient life are slim, given the potential number of planets out there, many of them closer to the center.  I wouldn&#8217;t doubt there are some rather highly evolved and/or highly tech-ed up civilizations out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Berry</title>
		<link>http://chrisberryonthe.net/2008/11/15/coming-out-of-the-god-closet/#comment-1919</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Berry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,

Thanks for sharing your thoughts, but I am a little confused by your comments. First off, I had absolutely no exposure to Christian Science until I was an adult, so I did not grow up with it. I&#039;m also curious to know exactly what my blog is screaming. If you believe that I have some hidden desire to develop a relationship with God, that&#039;s probably more wishful thinking on your part than mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing your thoughts, but I am a little confused by your comments. First off, I had absolutely no exposure to Christian Science until I was an adult, so I did not grow up with it. I&#8217;m also curious to know exactly what my blog is screaming. If you believe that I have some hidden desire to develop a relationship with God, that&#8217;s probably more wishful thinking on your part than mine.</p>
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